Himan Reunion ---- next generation learns of SS Orteric

So I tried to add as many words as possible in my title to activate a search. This post will be about reaching out to the next generation of the Himan descendants by introducing them to the immigration of their ancestors. The Himan family are descendants of the maiden voyage of the SS Orteric. This is a very unique set of survivors. Over 100 years later after this voyage it is very interesting to find the descendants of this voyage and share the lives of these survivors.

On November 10, 2012 a portion of the Himan Family gathered in Reno Nevada

and for the first time for many of them heard the story of the family of six traveling from Gibraltar Spain to Honolulu aboard the SS Orteric.

There is only one known photo of the SS Orteric. This photo is in a museum in Victoria, Australia.

The game played at the reunion was

tape the ship on the route

> found on the map. A map of the world was provided along with paper cut outs of the SS Orteric.

The children taped their paper ships to the route taken by the SS Orteric.

UT OH!!!! Did Uncle Al decide to play?

Help!!! Uncle Al is running into the tables!

The kids come to the rescue. This way Uncle Al!!

Everyone waits while the "winners" are announced.

The winners are the ships that are placed closest to the port of departure and the port of arrival.

Closest to Spain-----Michelle

Closest to Hawaii-----William

Nerja, Spain

Jose Jaime Reyes parents are Jose Jaime Martin and Maria Reyes Bobadilla of Nerja,

Spain.

How do I know for sure???? Ellen Fernandez-Sacco, Ph.D - Expert on Latino Genealogy translated Tony's father's baptismal transcription from the padres of Iglesis Parraquina Santa Ana, Villa Maulia Diocesis Malagur Manilia.

What a truly beautiful place! Henry Himan's maternal grandparents come from Alicante Next post.......... OBTW Henry Himan's birth name??

Andre Basilo Jaime Ortiz

Tony's favorite cousin's daughter sent a great package of family group sheets, photos and research.

Tony's favorite cousin's daughter sent a great package of family group sheets, photos and research. I am adding family data, photos, and research to "Little Sister" Mary's descendants. Mary's granddaughter Julie sent quite a large genealogical package to share at the Himan Reunion. I have entered the family data into the family database including Mary Ann's grandchildren. Also included in the package are photos are quite a few toddler photos of the two close cousins (my husband Tony and Mary's youngest daughter Mary Ann. I am having fun playing with the photos There is one photo in particular I am working on ----- it is a photo of Mary Ann about three years old walking with her parents in Honolulu Hawaii. Mary Ann is wearing a cute dress and bonnet, For the slide show I am attempting to take a full shot of the three of them and then about 3 more shots enlarged and chopped a little each time until it is just Mary Ann on the screen. It has the effect of being a movie. Mary Ann married a man Larry Dancer in Sunnyvale California. Tony and Larry knew each other since they were quite young. Tony and Larry were in quite a few classes together since the 5th grade. Mary Ann as a young girl. ).

Mary Ann and Larry had three children 1 boy and 2 girls. I have not heard definite yet but I do believe Mary Ann is planning to attend the Himan Family Reunion in November. I personally know of six hotel rooms that are booked and paid for the family reunion. And I have been told six more rooms are booked by other members of the family. My next blog will be about the communication I have sent to the cities in Spain regarding the Himan family.

SS Orteric

Wow wow this is so exciting. Through Blogs, Facebook friends, Google+ and Facebook groups I am finding quite a few people who are descendants of passengers on this voyage on the SS Orteric. There have been some light referral to the problems on this ship and a few discrepant reports, such as: Were there 48 or 58 children that died on this 48 day voyage? None of the accounts I read from descendants’

referred to The Federal Reporter vol.225 pages 341-348 Findley vs United States explaining how there was a law suit brought up against Captain Findley (under English owners) regarding the filthy conditions of this particular journey on this ship.

The SS Orteric departed Gibraltar on 24 Feb 1911 and arrived in Honolulu, Hawaii 13 April 1911 9am. Yet the ship and all the passengers were sent to Quarantine Island for an additional 15 days. Over one hundred (100) years ago my husband’s father left his homeland Espana and migrated to the Hawaiian Islands with his family. On a ship: The date in 1911 they left the harbor was a year before the Titanic left England. I had seen the movie Titanic, I had been on the Queen Mary docked in Long Beach, Calif. I understood things were not idea, but I thought their trip could have been reasonably comfortable. SS Orteric Who: Spanish and Portuguese Migrants What: SS Orteric Why: War -- King Alfonso and Sugar Industry Treaty How: Panama Canal ? NO AROUND THE CAPE!! first ship through the Panama Canal was 1914 When: 1911 (48 – 52 days)

But I was curious: Photo and dimensions’ of the ship Details of the journey Spaniards sent below Death Illness Quarantined Cholera For all his bother how was the captain awarded??? Law suit and fined. In His defense the captain presented the difficulties encountered on the journey ChickenPox. poor food, seasickness, women fighting including hair pulling and pitched battles. I was curious what exactly was meant by pitched battles (I imagined fights that started up whereas participants would pick up weapons like a pitch fork) but in truth the phrase means something a lot more menacing and potentially dangerous: pitched battle (p cht) n. 1. An intense battle fought in close contact by troops arranged in a predetermined formation 2. A fiercely waged battle or struggle between opposing forces. Therefore the separation of passengers were necessary. The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2009. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights r Our purpose is to spark interest in the next generation to learn about their ancestors. If we do not dig past the surface information, maybe we can have the FACTS Yes we could have just put the “facts” in but I think we would have missed the real story. Not to scare the heck out of next gerneration, I need to relax some of the more ominious details but I would like them to gain some insights of their relatives so I will emphasis the facts of Self-made people Cleanliness counts Stay true to your dreams Stick together with those that care about you This too shall pass Educate yourself and assume nothing!! In conclusion I want to introduce the new generation to game called

Tape the Boat on the Map.

Here I have copied photos of the SS Orteric, one by one the participant will be blindfolded and turned around. The game will have two TOP winner and several second place winners. The Winners will be the two boats that are the closest to the departure port and arrival port. The secondary winners will be anyone with a boat placed anywhere along the immigrants ocean voyage. I will also include some but not all my references for future genealogists. S.S. ORTERIC 1) Excerpts taken from the Pacific Commercial Advertiser. State of Hawaii Library on microfilm, State of Hawaii Archives. 2 ) The Island Routes Facebook Blog (founded by Melody Lassele) 3) http://www.clydebuiltships.co.uk (dimensions of the ship) 4) The Federal reporter: with key-number annotations ..., Volume 225 By District of Columbia. Court of Appeals, United States. Circuit Court of Appeals, United States. Circuit Courts, United States. Commerce Court, United States. District Courts Pages 341===348 5) S.S. ORTERIC Date(s) of creation: [ca. 1910-ca. 1920] postcard : printed, b&w ; 8 x 13.8 cm. approx. Reproduction rights owned by the State Library of Victoria Accession No: H27570/128 Image No: a12541 The ship: Launched 1910: ss ORTERIC ss ORTERIC ________________________________________ built by Russell & Co Port Glasgow, Yard No 607 Engines by Rankin & Blackmore ________________________________________ Propulsion: steam, triple expansion, single screw, 13 knots Launched: Monday, 19/12/1910 Built: 1911 Ship Type: Steamship Tonnage: 6535 grt Length: 460 feet Breadth: 57 feet Owner History: Bank Line Ltd ( Andrew Weir ), Glasgow Status: Torpedoed & Sunk - 09/12/1915 Remarks: O.N. 129534 Completed: January 1911. Torpedoed by U.39 in 32.30N 25.30E, Antofagasta for Alexandria with nitrate. Previous updates by Stuart Cameron, George Robinson and Bruce Biddulph

Himan Reunion June 11, 2012 --- So the planning starts

Okay before you start to read this---- note this is a draft of a blog. This will be a series of blogs as I participate in a family reunion committee. Blogspot has a new format! I will correct this blog and edit ---- when I find the spell check!!! Someone stoled my spell check!! In May of 2012, Tony and I took a ride to spend a few days with his brother Hank and his wife Linda. We began talking about the genealogy I have been doing and what was the best way to try to get it more complete family history and distribute the information we have discovered.

We also discussed Lee Hardcastle and his failing health and how many of the children would love to see their Uncle Lee. We discussed ways to get people together and decided RENO was a good middle of the map for us to visit. We further evaluated that Reno had ready transportation via the airlines for most people traveling from out of state.

Circus Circus often has great deals on their rooms, We would not have to worry if any of the kids decided to run around in the hallways, and Circus Circus has of course the Circus to entertain the kids!

RENO also has great sentimental connections to the Himan family. Tony and his family traveled to RENO several times a year when Tony was a child. Every year on or around Nov 13th, Billy and I would pick up Aunt Pat and spend a week or so at Circus Circus. Pat and I would gossip for days and Billy would run down to the carnival and bring us stuffed animals he had won at the Circus Circus. We women would go to the "Chicken in the Pot" booth. The "Chicken in the Pot" booth is where you placed those silly dead chickens on a platform and then hit the platform with a rubber mallet. The object of the game was an to land the chicken in a one of several pots that were moving constantly. It was such fun and a great stress reducer.

Let's just say AUNT BARBARA never need to pay for a room or meal at HARRAH's RENO and had her "favorite room"! She also had her favorite poker video game that she hit the jackpot quite often. Jackpot was just under 1200 (therefore no tax information was required!) Truth be told-- I hit the jackpot on her machine also one time.

Because it was near Pat's birthday --- Uncle Hank picked Nov 10, 2012 as the reunion date. Linda Himan sent out SAVE A DATE letters. I added family group sheets with instructions to be added to the SAVE A DATE announcement. This is Hank and Tony's sister called SISTAH later she named herself PAT Her birth name was Isabel Gloria Himan named after her parent's two mothers

June 11, 2012 email from Linda Himan: Himan ReunionMonday, June 11, 2012 6:43 PMFrom: This sender is DomainKeys verified"Linda Himan" View contact detailsTo: "Ruth Himan" , "ruth & tony himan"

Hi Ruth - I Spoke with Hank, He felt 11/10 a Saturday would be best, is this o.k. with you & Tony? We are leaving in the morning to see Mendy Himan, our grandaughter in Las Vegas, she got married last year, and we found out of facebook, she & Hank haven't been keeping in touch(she is Bear's Daughter) Like you do, I made plans for us to go & see her and meet her husband. We will be back on 6/14 Late. Love ya - Linda P.S. When I get your list & phone #'s I willl start making calls, and send you results. I'm really excited about the reunion

Locate a Grave in Honolulu

For the next generation: As the self appointed family history person I wish to locate as many HIMAN resting places as possible.


There are several grave locating websites now available on the internet. Some of these sites you pay for, many of them need registeration to use the site.


One of the most popular activities on the Web is tracking down genealogy records. Part of this search includes finding graves, interment records, or gravesite information. The following sites are some of the best resources online for finding this information.

•FindaGrave: with millions of cemetery records, this site is a great resource. Includes a search for famous graves, location-based searching, date search, a listing of "interesting" monuments, and over 70 million grave records you can search through.

•Interment.net: Offers an extensive database of cemetery and burial records from thousands of cemeteries all over the world. Special collections include federal and state veterans' cemeteries, cemeteries of the California missions, and cemeteries that have been unfortunately flooded by dam building.

•Arlington National Cemetery: Probably the most famous cemetery in the United States. and one of the oldest. Only interments conducted after 1999 can actually be found online using the Nationwide Gravesite Locator; however, the site also offers a detailed list of daily funerals, comprehensive burial information, and a detailed listing of historical figures buried at the site.

•Cemetery Junction Directory: One of the oldest genealogical sites on the Web, with over 100,000 separate cemetery listings from all over the world. Includes cemetery listings and transcriptions (provided by volunteers) from the United States, Canada, and Australia.

•National Cemeteries: Here, you can browse through 131 national cemeteries in 39 different states. Click on a particular listing, and you'll see office and visitation hours, directions, historical information, historical figures buried there, and direct contact information.

•Death, Burial, Cemetery, and Obituaries: There is a wealth of information available here, including birth and death information, family origins, cemetery and interment details, and obituaries (note: this site requires a membership, but a free trial is available).

* Cemeteries and Funeral Homes: Exhaustive list of resources to find graves or cemeteries or cemetery records.

Cyndi's List is one of the best genealogical resources online.

*Locate a Grave is where I found the following data:


This is a small sample of the data available for the Himan's.

Blogging is a good place to store data. I wish to continue indexing our data on my blogs.

These sites are very useful. Exact location within the cemetery are often included, many sites also now offer photos of the head stones, plots, cemetary front gates.

The four names below identify the name of the deceased.
Birth date Death date Name of Cemetery City and State of the Cemetary.

Frank Himan Jr
01/28/1930 09/30/2010 Hawaii State Veterans Cemetery Kaneohe HI

Gilbert Earl Himan
01/04/1931 01/23/1988 National Memorial Cemetery of the Pacific Honolulu HI

Katherine L Himan
09/28/1940 01/24/2009 National Memorial Cemetery of the Pacific Honolulu HI

Patrick Lawrence Himan
11/10/1937 04/10/1984 National Memorial Cemetery of the Pacific Honolulu HI

Surname HIMAN from JAIME

Himan's are often asked the origin of their surname. Most intelligence studies have the Himan's registered as Jewish.  If you check net detective or marketing databases as I have,  my husbands family (brother, uncles, sons) are all listed as Jewish. Another equally wrong guess is that the surname is German.

The name is Spanish!

Here is the story. Jose Pelle Jaime traveled with his wife Isabell Alobe Ortiz and six children from Spain to America, All the children were born in Spain, All the boys took their mother's surname ORTIZ  as their middle names.

The name was Jaime (pronounced in espanol as Hi  mee) but in the USA the name was often pronounced JAY MEE.  In spanish the letter "an" embellished can sound like "ee". So the grandfather attempted to spell Hi  mee in English ---- but alas he creates a new surname HI MAN.

Yes there is another family with Himan as a surname but the 6 Himan children are very unique.

More to follow:::

Joseph Ortiz Himan Son
abt 1898
Spain


Antone Ortiz Himan Son
11 Mar 1901
Spain
Death: 8 Nov 1987
Sunnyvale, Santa Clara, California, United States of America

Henry Ortiz Himan ------  Son
March 22, 1902
Spain
Death: 10 Jan 1976
Sunnyvale, Santa Clara, California, United States of America

Frank Ortiz Himan Son
10 Sep 1904
Malaga, Spain
Death: Aug 1979
Kailua, Honolulu, Hawaii, United States of America

Manuel Ortiz Himan Son
16 Mar 1907
Spain
Death: Aug 1974
Hayward, Alameda, California, United States of America

Mary Himan Daughter
abt 1909
Malaga, Spain
Death after 2000:
California, USA

Below is scanned copies of Tony's fathers naruralization papers and change of name papers.